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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:47:00 - [1]

Looks good. Cool

I don't have a problem with having a thermal damage bonus on the dominix, Ogres already have for example a 23% advantage in damage over berserkers which I'm sure a lot of people forget.

Oh I take it a lot of people missed the drone navigation skill, at last hobgoblins will be of use against fast interceptors. The only thing I'd like to see extra is the same damage bonus that is applied to heavies, being applied to medium and light drones (then the sig resolution of heavy/medium drones can be looked at w.r.t small targets).



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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:47:00 - [2]

Looks good. Cool

I don't have a problem with having a thermal damage bonus on the dominix, Ogres already have for example a 23% advantage in damage over berserkers which I'm sure a lot of people forget.

Oh I take it a lot of people missed the drone navigation skill, at last hobgoblins will be of use against fast interceptors. The only thing I'd like to see extra is the same damage bonus that is applied to heavies, being applied to medium and light drones (then the sig resolution of heavy/medium drones can be looked at w.r.t small targets).


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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 09:11:00 - [3]

I love some of the arguments against this change...

"Oh it won't look as good with 5 drones as it does with 15"

Laughing

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 09:11:00 - [4]

I love some of the arguments against this change...

"Oh it won't look as good with 5 drones as it does with 15"

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:20:00 - [5]

Perhaps it should be pointed out that Ogres do more damage to a standard, three hardener (Explosive/Thermal/Kinetic) tanked Apocalypse than berserkers...

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:20:00 - [6]

Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 01/11/2005 14:36:31
Perhaps it should be pointed out that Ogres give the same damage to a standard, three hardener (Explosive/Thermal/Kinetic) tanked Apocalypse as berserkers...

Edit:

With 55% hardeners, giving Thermal 70.75%/Explos. 64%

1.6x1.25x11x15 x(0.2925)= 96.525 dmg/sec for Ogres
1.3x1.25x11x15 x(0.36)=96.525 dmg/sec for berserkers
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:39:00 - [7]

Originally by: Xtro 2

ive never used thermal drones ever on my dom, their useless, always 100% tanked and damned slow/buggy to boot.

Worst content update ever. (.voice of comic book guy.)


Example 1:

Tanked Apoc, 55% Kinetic/Explosive/Thermal armour hardeners (giving 70.75% Thermal, 64% Explosive damage, 60% EM)

15 Ogres= 1.6x1.25x11x15x (0.2925) = 96.525 dmg/sec
15 Berserkers= 1.3x1.25x11x15x (0.36) = 96.525 dmg/sec
15 Praetors= 1.15x1.25x11x15x (0.4) = 94.875 dmg/sec
15 Wasps= 1.45x1.25x11x15x (0.3375) = 100.934 dmg/sec

- Ogres Joint Second

Example 2:

Tanked Raven, 55% Kinetic/EM/Thermal Shield Hardeners (giving 73% Kinetic, 55% EM, 64% thermal, 60% Explosive)

15 Ogres= 1.6x1.25x11x15x (0.36)= 118.8 dmg/sec
15 Berserkers= 1.3x1.25x11x15 x(0.4) = 107.25 dm/sec
15 Praetors= 1.15x1.25x11x15 x(0.45) = 105.88 dmg/sec
15 Wasps= 1.45x1.25x11x15 x(0.27) = 80.75 dmg/sec

- Ogres Clear winner

Oh and as far as base values are concerned, averaging across shield+armour, the resistance to Thermal damage is the lowest, followed by EM, Kinetic and then Explosive.


Try to understand how the game works before making blanket statements...

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:39:00 - [8]

Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 01/11/2005 18:40:12
Originally by: Xtro 2

ive never used thermal drones ever on my dom, their useless, always 100% tanked and damned slow/buggy to boot.

Worst content update ever. (.voice of comic book guy.)


Example 1:

Tanked Apoc, 55% Kinetic/Explosive/Thermal armour hardeners (giving 70.75% Thermal, 64% Explosive damage, 60% EM)

15 Ogres= 1.6x1.25x11x15x (0.2925) = 96.525 dmg/sec
15 Berserkers= 1.3x1.25x11x15x (0.36) = 96.525 dmg/sec
15 Praetors= 1.15x1.25x11x15x (0.4) = 94.875 dmg/sec
15 Wasps= 1.45x1.25x11x15x (0.3375) = 100.934 dmg/sec

- Ogres Joint Second

Example 2:

Tanked Raven, 55% Kinetic/EM/Thermal Shield Hardeners (giving 73% Kinetic, 55% EM, 64% thermal, 60% Explosive)

15 Ogres= 1.6x1.25x11x15x (0.36)= 118.8 dmg/sec
15 Berserkers= 1.3x1.25x11x15 x(0.4) = 107.25 dm/sec
15 Praetors= 1.15x1.25x11x15 x(0.45) = 105.88 dmg/sec
15 Wasps= 1.45x1.25x11x15 x(0.27) = 80.75 dmg/sec

- Ogres Clear winner

Oh and as far as base values are concerned, averaging across shield+armour, the resistance to Thermal damage is the lowest, followed by EM, Kinetic and then Explosive.



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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 22:01:00 - [9]

Originally by: Ace101
OH MY GOD!!! WHY!! WHY!!....

im guessing about 25% of the players are Gallente, and this is killing everything that is good about gallente ships!! think of how worthless my domi and ishtar are going to be?! The Domi is/WAS one of them most fun ships to fly in PVP.. now i see things will be changing im not so happy... way to go ruin things.
Care to make a point, or are you just here to rant?

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.01 22:01:00 - [10]

Originally by: Ace101
OH MY GOD!!! WHY!! WHY!!....

im guessing about 25% of the players are Gallente, and this is killing everything that is good about gallente ships!! think of how worthless my domi and ishtar are going to be?! The Domi is/WAS one of them most fun ships to fly in PVP.. now i see things will be changing im not so happy... way to go ruin things.
Care to make a point, or are you just here to rant?
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.05 10:35:00 - [11]

You know some people should actually try fitting large hybrids to a Dominix before complaining how they can't fit anything in the high slots.
I get 44% more damage from my turrets than the 15 Ogre II's I can deploy.

Oh and I'm looking forward to these changes...Cool

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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.05 10:35:00 - [12]

You know some people should actually try fitting large hybrids to a Dominix before complaining how they can't fit anything in the high slots.
I get 44% more damage from my turrets than the 15 Ogre II's I can deploy.

Oh and I'm looking forward to these changes...Cool
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:33:00 - [13]

Are you for real?...Rolling Eyes



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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:33:00 - [14]

Are you for real?...Rolling Eyes


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